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	<title>Comments on: Noontime Book Chat: *Going Down South* by Bonnie Glover</title>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Nov 2008 05:54:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I loved the character of Birdie!  Her scenes were my favorite.  I definitely think Daisy was jealous of the relationship between Olivia Jean and Birdie.  I also loved the mud scene!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I loved the character of Birdie!  Her scenes were my favorite.  I definitely think Daisy was jealous of the relationship between Olivia Jean and Birdie.  I also loved the mud scene!</p>
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		<title>By: Dar</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:42:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I liked all three female characters-I&#039;m not sure I even have a favorite anymore.  By the end of the book I loved them all for different reasons. 

I thought the mud scene very symbolic of breaking that wall between Daisy and Birdie.  After that they were able to move on some and heal past hurts.  

You know I&#039;m still not sure that Daisy didn&#039;t have some idea that Shorty Long was her father.  He was always so interested in what and how she was doing.  He left them the houses.  I don&#039;t know, it just seems odd to me that she never had any inkling.  

Turk never redeemed himself to me.  Percy Walker deserved what he got.  Shorty Long was a good man but my favorite had to be Lupe.  He sounds like quite the gentleman.

I hope to get my review written today or tomorrow.  I was sad to see this book end.  I know all good books must come to an end but I would have still liked more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I liked all three female characters-I&#8217;m not sure I even have a favorite anymore.  By the end of the book I loved them all for different reasons. </p>
<p>I thought the mud scene very symbolic of breaking that wall between Daisy and Birdie.  After that they were able to move on some and heal past hurts.  </p>
<p>You know I&#8217;m still not sure that Daisy didn&#8217;t have some idea that Shorty Long was her father.  He was always so interested in what and how she was doing.  He left them the houses.  I don&#8217;t know, it just seems odd to me that she never had any inkling.  </p>
<p>Turk never redeemed himself to me.  Percy Walker deserved what he got.  Shorty Long was a good man but my favorite had to be Lupe.  He sounds like quite the gentleman.</p>
<p>I hope to get my review written today or tomorrow.  I was sad to see this book end.  I know all good books must come to an end but I would have still liked more.</p>
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		<title>By: Shana @ Literarily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shana @ Literarily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 04:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawn, I didn&#039;t get much reading done on this today, with trying to finish up a book for a tour stop tomorrow.  But I can&#039;t wait to spend a little time reading tomorrow morning and I&#039;ll be back then to reply to your question.  I&#039;m still in section two!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawn, I didn&#8217;t get much reading done on this today, with trying to finish up a book for a tour stop tomorrow.  But I can&#8217;t wait to spend a little time reading tomorrow morning and I&#8217;ll be back then to reply to your question.  I&#8217;m still in section two!</p>
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		<title>By: yasmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>yasmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:41:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Bonnie and thanks for your explanation regarding why Daisy wasn&#039;t concerned about who her father was.  It&#039;s still a little hard for me to relate to because my paternal  grandparents were in an interracial marriage during that timespan...when interracial relationships were definitely not accepted or as commonplace today.  While I understand the bigotry, hatred and racism that existed during that time...esp. in the South...it&#039;s still mind-boggling to me that Birdie didn&#039;t tell and Daisy didn&#039;t ask.  Scratch that it&#039;s mindblogging that Daisy never asked...but I have to understand that she was young, dumb and full of cum as the old folks used to say...LOL.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Bonnie and thanks for your explanation regarding why Daisy wasn&#8217;t concerned about who her father was.  It&#8217;s still a little hard for me to relate to because my paternal  grandparents were in an interracial marriage during that timespan&#8230;when interracial relationships were definitely not accepted or as commonplace today.  While I understand the bigotry, hatred and racism that existed during that time&#8230;esp. in the South&#8230;it&#8217;s still mind-boggling to me that Birdie didn&#8217;t tell and Daisy didn&#8217;t ask.  Scratch that it&#8217;s mindblogging that Daisy never asked&#8230;but I have to understand that she was young, dumb and full of cum as the old folks used to say&#8230;LOL.</p>
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		<title>By: J. Kaye</title>
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		<dc:creator>J. Kaye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:33:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dawn, I didn&#039;t see him doted on her. Daisy had said that he had a way with all women at the beginning. It was just his nature. Remember at her birthday party? All she wanted was for Turk to sing her a song. Instead, he sang a song to Daisy. I just think he has a different personality and was easy to get along with, if that makes sense. Daisy was thorny. 

Yasmin, I wondered why Daisy hadn&#039;t been more persistent as well. It seemed almost out of character for her not to ask, but I think she was a different person in her younger days. Looking how she followed Turk in NY shortly after they were married verses the broom scene. Time changed her into an aggressive person. By the time she became mean and aggressive, I don&#039;t think it was a thought until she moved in with Birdie.

I am glad I am not the only one who felt for Daisy. I know she was a bad mother, but so was Birdie. I say bad, like in dysfunctional. I think they all loved one another, but had so many other issues causing those to corrupt the love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dawn, I didn&#8217;t see him doted on her. Daisy had said that he had a way with all women at the beginning. It was just his nature. Remember at her birthday party? All she wanted was for Turk to sing her a song. Instead, he sang a song to Daisy. I just think he has a different personality and was easy to get along with, if that makes sense. Daisy was thorny. </p>
<p>Yasmin, I wondered why Daisy hadn&#8217;t been more persistent as well. It seemed almost out of character for her not to ask, but I think she was a different person in her younger days. Looking how she followed Turk in NY shortly after they were married verses the broom scene. Time changed her into an aggressive person. By the time she became mean and aggressive, I don&#8217;t think it was a thought until she moved in with Birdie.</p>
<p>I am glad I am not the only one who felt for Daisy. I know she was a bad mother, but so was Birdie. I say bad, like in dysfunctional. I think they all loved one another, but had so many other issues causing those to corrupt the love.</p>
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		<title>By: Bonnie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bonnie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahhhh - the mud scene.  I was thinking of what I could write that would be outrageous enough that people would laugh at yet imply a lot of things.  There is a scene in the Bible where man is wrestling an angel - they are locked together in fierce combat for the entire night.  In the morning, the man begins to understand that he is battling an angel.  Combine that with mud -- you have Daisy  and Birdie.

I don&#039;t mean to be flip -- but the Bible is the best source for conflict.  Just spice it up some more with a few modern day equivalents and you&#039;ve got great scene.

Yasmin/Dawn - as far as Daisy not knowing who her father was -- I spoke to a group of ladies from my church.  The age varied.  But to a one, the older of them said there were certain things that just weren&#039;t talked about back then.  Remember why there was a split?  There might have still been danger.  And, I do think Daisy was naive up til she left town and after she had too many other things to deal with rather than thing of fatherhood.   I think.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahhhh &#8211; the mud scene.  I was thinking of what I could write that would be outrageous enough that people would laugh at yet imply a lot of things.  There is a scene in the Bible where man is wrestling an angel &#8211; they are locked together in fierce combat for the entire night.  In the morning, the man begins to understand that he is battling an angel.  Combine that with mud &#8212; you have Daisy  and Birdie.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t mean to be flip &#8212; but the Bible is the best source for conflict.  Just spice it up some more with a few modern day equivalents and you&#8217;ve got great scene.</p>
<p>Yasmin/Dawn &#8211; as far as Daisy not knowing who her father was &#8212; I spoke to a group of ladies from my church.  The age varied.  But to a one, the older of them said there were certain things that just weren&#8217;t talked about back then.  Remember why there was a split?  There might have still been danger.  And, I do think Daisy was naive up til she left town and after she had too many other things to deal with rather than thing of fatherhood.   I think.</p>
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		<title>By: Yasmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yasmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey SheIsTooFondOfBooks (SITFOB)...know Birdie didn&#039;t ever make a big deal out of who Daisy&#039;s father was...and I don&#039;t think Daisy ever asked...I was just surprised that Daisy didn&#039;t wasn&#039;t even curious...esp. since she was so fair compared to others...hmmmm a wrap up question just came to mind for tomorrow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey SheIsTooFondOfBooks (SITFOB)&#8230;know Birdie didn&#8217;t ever make a big deal out of who Daisy&#8217;s father was&#8230;and I don&#8217;t think Daisy ever asked&#8230;I was just surprised that Daisy didn&#8217;t wasn&#8217;t even curious&#8230;esp. since she was so fair compared to others&#8230;hmmmm a wrap up question just came to mind for tomorrow.</p>
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		<title>By: sheistoofondofbooks</title>
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		<dc:creator>sheistoofondofbooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 20:28:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonnie - thanks for joining us again!  I love your hypothesis about the 3 stages, and now that you&#039;ve shared the hypothesis ... it is so clear (why didn&#039;t I see that?).  Perhaps saying I &quot;liked&quot; Birdie&#039;s section the most was the wrong word; I felt sad for Olivia Jean and Daisy -- Olivia Jean was unaware of how her world would change, and Daisy was in the middle of a real unhappy period.  As you say, Birdie has seen the darkest depths and is now settled into a pleasant routine.

re: J. Kaye&#039;s comment about the mud scene.  I wondered the same thing ... was it inspired by a story or &quot;tall tale&quot; you&#039;ve heard?   What a way to settle an argument!

Percy Walker - what a hypocrite (among other choice words I could use!).  To take advantage of Daisy as a girl ... horrible of any man, extra horrible to be a &quot;man of the cloth&quot;.  Again, very powerful writing on Bonnie&#039;s part!

I don&#039;t think Turk suspected that Olivia Jean wasn&#039;t his.  He doted on her (at his convenience), but shut her off when she got pregnant.  I think he believed she was his child.

As far as Daisy not wondering if Shorty Long was her father. ...  you make a good point, Yasmin.  But Birdie was a bit of a rebel in everything she did ... maybe Daisy simply accepted that her father was someone who was just passing thru town one time.  It&#039;s been a few months since I read the book, but I don&#039;t remember Birdie feeding Daisy any story about who her father was (am I forgetting?).  I know they named her Daisy specifically because of her lighter skin, so it was a big deal (not subtle).

This is another great discussion, let&#039;s see where it goes ....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonnie &#8211; thanks for joining us again!  I love your hypothesis about the 3 stages, and now that you&#8217;ve shared the hypothesis &#8230; it is so clear (why didn&#8217;t I see that?).  Perhaps saying I &#8220;liked&#8221; Birdie&#8217;s section the most was the wrong word; I felt sad for Olivia Jean and Daisy &#8212; Olivia Jean was unaware of how her world would change, and Daisy was in the middle of a real unhappy period.  As you say, Birdie has seen the darkest depths and is now settled into a pleasant routine.</p>
<p>re: J. Kaye&#8217;s comment about the mud scene.  I wondered the same thing &#8230; was it inspired by a story or &#8220;tall tale&#8221; you&#8217;ve heard?   What a way to settle an argument!</p>
<p>Percy Walker &#8211; what a hypocrite (among other choice words I could use!).  To take advantage of Daisy as a girl &#8230; horrible of any man, extra horrible to be a &#8220;man of the cloth&#8221;.  Again, very powerful writing on Bonnie&#8217;s part!</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think Turk suspected that Olivia Jean wasn&#8217;t his.  He doted on her (at his convenience), but shut her off when she got pregnant.  I think he believed she was his child.</p>
<p>As far as Daisy not wondering if Shorty Long was her father. &#8230;  you make a good point, Yasmin.  But Birdie was a bit of a rebel in everything she did &#8230; maybe Daisy simply accepted that her father was someone who was just passing thru town one time.  It&#8217;s been a few months since I read the book, but I don&#8217;t remember Birdie feeding Daisy any story about who her father was (am I forgetting?).  I know they named her Daisy specifically because of her lighter skin, so it was a big deal (not subtle).</p>
<p>This is another great discussion, let&#8217;s see where it goes &#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Yasmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yasmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:17:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonnie...excellent analysis regarding the three women...I can actually see that...esp. with Birdie...I saw the progression with her...through all three stages.

JKay--I loved that mud scene...and keep reading...cause the good Pastor is going to get his comeuppance...well I hoped he did. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonnie&#8230;excellent analysis regarding the three women&#8230;I can actually see that&#8230;esp. with Birdie&#8230;I saw the progression with her&#8230;through all three stages.</p>
<p>JKay&#8211;I loved that mud scene&#8230;and keep reading&#8230;cause the good Pastor is going to get his comeuppance&#8230;well I hoped he did. <img src='http://www.sheistoofondofbooks.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Yasmin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yasmin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 19:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey J. Kaye...I wondered about whether or not Turk knew also...in my gut I felt that he did and that&#039;s why he treated her so poorly at times.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey J. Kaye&#8230;I wondered about whether or not Turk knew also&#8230;in my gut I felt that he did and that&#8217;s why he treated her so poorly at times.</p>
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