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	<title>Comments on: Book Review: *The Magicians* by Lev Grossman</title>
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		<title>By: Review: The Magicians by Lev Grossman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Review: The Magicians by Lev Grossman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 13:21:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: S. Krishna</title>
		<link>http://www.sheistoofondofbooks.com/2009/11/02/book-review-the-magicians-by-lev-grossman/comment-page-1/#comment-28749</link>
		<dc:creator>S. Krishna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great review! I enjoyed this book more than you did, I think, but you pointed out some great flaws.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great review! I enjoyed this book more than you did, I think, but you pointed out some great flaws.</p>
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		<title>By: sheistoofondofbooks</title>
		<link>http://www.sheistoofondofbooks.com/2009/11/02/book-review-the-magicians-by-lev-grossman/comment-page-1/#comment-28465</link>
		<dc:creator>sheistoofondofbooks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:42:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>softdrink - I don&#039;t remember your review, heading back to look for it now ....

Steph - you state your assessment so eloquently - I wish I had written it!  (I didn&#039;t know a series was planned!)

Stacy - you might leaf thru it at a bookstore or library to see if it might work for you ... I haven&#039;t found many strong defenders, though.

zibilee - there were some very positive reviews when it first came out, but that first round has definitely tapered off.

Jenners - I don&#039;t think I would have finished it, if it weren&#039;t our book group pick.

Nicole - I agree about the pacing!  There were many scenes that didn&#039;t add anything to the overall story (but were creative!)

Ramona - definitely depressing.

diane - I&#039;ll look for your review to see what interested you -- always nice to know other opinions.

Serena - Harry Potter dulled for me after the first few books, but I felt they were more cohesive, in any case.

Ti - I&#039;m now convinced (by other readers), that he was expecting too much of us, that the satire wasn&#039;t obvious or well-written.

Fyrefly - wow!  That whole ring/button, pond/fountain line .... was there any original material?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>softdrink &#8211; I don&#8217;t remember your review, heading back to look for it now &#8230;.</p>
<p>Steph &#8211; you state your assessment so eloquently &#8211; I wish I had written it!  (I didn&#8217;t know a series was planned!)</p>
<p>Stacy &#8211; you might leaf thru it at a bookstore or library to see if it might work for you &#8230; I haven&#8217;t found many strong defenders, though.</p>
<p>zibilee &#8211; there were some very positive reviews when it first came out, but that first round has definitely tapered off.</p>
<p>Jenners &#8211; I don&#8217;t think I would have finished it, if it weren&#8217;t our book group pick.</p>
<p>Nicole &#8211; I agree about the pacing!  There were many scenes that didn&#8217;t add anything to the overall story (but were creative!)</p>
<p>Ramona &#8211; definitely depressing.</p>
<p>diane &#8211; I&#8217;ll look for your review to see what interested you &#8212; always nice to know other opinions.</p>
<p>Serena &#8211; Harry Potter dulled for me after the first few books, but I felt they were more cohesive, in any case.</p>
<p>Ti &#8211; I&#8217;m now convinced (by other readers), that he was expecting too much of us, that the satire wasn&#8217;t obvious or well-written.</p>
<p>Fyrefly &#8211; wow!  That whole ring/button, pond/fountain line &#8230;. was there any original material?</p>
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		<title>By: Fyrefly</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fyrefly</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:48:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Narnia parallels were even more overt than the Harry Potter ones - for instance, in &lt;i&gt;The Magician&#039;s Nephew&lt;/i&gt; (the 6th Narnia book), you reach Narnia by putting on a magic ring, which whisks you away to the wood between the worlds, where you jump into a pond to get to the magical other world.   Sound familiar?

So, yeah, I&#039;m a big fantasy fan, and I didn&#039;t much care for this one at all - I felt like, as in the third quote you listed, that he was taking a knock at people who do enjoy fantasy novels as a bit of escapism... so he alienates the non-fantasy readers by having so much fantasy allusions and background, and he alienates the fantasy fans by pointing up the inadequacies of the genre they enjoy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Narnia parallels were even more overt than the Harry Potter ones &#8211; for instance, in <i>The Magician&#8217;s Nephew</i> (the 6th Narnia book), you reach Narnia by putting on a magic ring, which whisks you away to the wood between the worlds, where you jump into a pond to get to the magical other world.   Sound familiar?</p>
<p>So, yeah, I&#8217;m a big fantasy fan, and I didn&#8217;t much care for this one at all &#8211; I felt like, as in the third quote you listed, that he was taking a knock at people who do enjoy fantasy novels as a bit of escapism&#8230; so he alienates the non-fantasy readers by having so much fantasy allusions and background, and he alienates the fantasy fans by pointing up the inadequacies of the genre they enjoy.</p>
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		<title>By: Ti</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ti</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 21:47:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It really bugs me when an author throws stuff in like that and just assumes that the reader will pick-up on the reference. Contrary to popular belief, there are people out there that have not read HP. This would bug me too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It really bugs me when an author throws stuff in like that and just assumes that the reader will pick-up on the reference. Contrary to popular belief, there are people out there that have not read HP. This would bug me too.</p>
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		<title>By: Serena (Savvy Verse &#38; Wit)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Serena (Savvy Verse &#38; Wit)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:14:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bermudaonion said something similar about not being for the average reader of fantasy.  I&#039;m not sure this is a book I would enjoy.  I may need more fantasy under my belt.  I haven&#039;t even read harry potter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bermudaonion said something similar about not being for the average reader of fantasy.  I&#8217;m not sure this is a book I would enjoy.  I may need more fantasy under my belt.  I haven&#8217;t even read harry potter.</p>
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		<title>By: diane</title>
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		<dc:creator>diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 21:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is not the type of book I would normally read, but I did enjoy it--well done.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is not the type of book I would normally read, but I did enjoy it&#8211;well done.</p>
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		<title>By: Ramona</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ramona</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:08:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I had high hopes when this book came out but I was greatly dissappointed.  He ripped off so many other great fantasy books and didn&#039;t take it anywhere interesting.  Plus one of the most depressing books ever!   Big thumbs down from Mama Reads!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I had high hopes when this book came out but I was greatly dissappointed.  He ripped off so many other great fantasy books and didn&#8217;t take it anywhere interesting.  Plus one of the most depressing books ever!   Big thumbs down from Mama Reads!</p>
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		<title>By: Nicole</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nicole</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:50:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think his writing was good and I would be interested to read something else.  I think too that this book would definitely have benefitted from being shorter.  I wanted the story to move much faster than it did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think his writing was good and I would be interested to read something else.  I think too that this book would definitely have benefitted from being shorter.  I wanted the story to move much faster than it did.</p>
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		<title>By: Jenners</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jenners</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 03 Nov 2009 01:09:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmmmm...Beth Fish Reads didn&#039;t care for this one either. And now with some of your examples, I&#039;m starting to dislike it outright -- even never having read it!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmmmm&#8230;Beth Fish Reads didn&#8217;t care for this one either. And now with some of your examples, I&#8217;m starting to dislike it outright &#8212; even never having read it!</p>
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